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Post subject: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
 Posted: Apr 19, 2007 - 02:18 PM
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Do you think we shall change to the simpler version of our forum software, which might look then this way?
Except for the last 2 or 3 posts, the entire data were transferred without problems, it seems...
What do you guys think, shall we replace the PNphpBB with the phpBB standalone forum? |
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Post subject: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Apr 19, 2007 - 07:26 PM
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vanrozenheim wrote:
Except for the last 2 or 3 posts, the entire data were transferred without problems, it seems...
Known bugs: no search results are delivered for whatever subject one requests. I am going to examinate this more closely. in the next few days.  |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Jul 20, 2007 - 10:55 AM
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| Thus far, the phpBB standalone forum has gathered to itself somewhere around 60 spammers (which are banned once they post their cargo of links, largely to porn). Usually there are two new ones a day, though some days see as many as 12. In terms of ease of moderation, the simple machines software in use at the GLR forum or the postnuke software in use here are much preferable. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Jul 20, 2007 - 03:43 PM
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| Is there some reason to change it? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Jul 20, 2007 - 05:21 PM
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There is no urgent need to change, but in the middle term I would prefer the SMF, too. The reason to change the software is that the software we use here on GRD isn't really up-to-date and probably will not be supported by the developers in future. The SMF software is clearly the market leader and is superior to phpBB, technically.
Current GRD's spammer yield reaches 3-5 entries a day. It will cause too much work to ban all of them manually, in a long-term.
Thus, can you guys take some time testing whether you can cope with our SMF-based forum's software? Just go to http://forum.gayrepublic.org/ and post around a little bit, just to see if everything functions well. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Jul 20, 2007 - 07:09 PM
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vanrozenheim wrote:
Just go to http://forum.gayrepublic.org/ and post around a little bit, just to see if everything functions well.
Just as a reminder, the forum over at GLR does not automatically contain the same members or user-names as this one -- a registration may be necessary for some people (and Yahoo, along with a number of spam filters, is likely to trash people's confirmation e-mail. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Sep 09, 2007 - 07:19 AM
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I have locked most of the sections of the phpBB forum -- the number of new spam posts grew to more than one person can reasonably delete. New registrations have been continuing unabated... they just can't post their porn videos anymore.
The Simple Machines tools for handling this problem are eminently superior to the phpBB method.
To complicate matters, I have grown quite attached to the way things are here with the PostNuke version. (A simple theme change for the SMF software would completely counterbalance any purely sentimental fondness I have for PostNuke.
Since we are not using the phpBB forum for anything, might I suggest an experiment with one of the tools Simple Machines has for converting phpBB databases into SMF databases? I already understand that this tool cannot convert passwords (the encryption is beyond the tool's capacity to convert) and that they must all be re-set. Running such an experiment on a forum that is not in use would cause no drama for anyone. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Sep 20, 2007 - 07:53 PM
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Ahem, sorry for missing this recent post. PostNuke by times marks topics as "read" - because they are somewhat older, I suspect. One more reason to try a change.
I will be not able to address this issue before October, because such an attempt will require some quite massive manual operations. Will Berto be happy with such a change? He previously reported some problems and I have so far no feedback for the SMF software, which can be tested here: http://forum.gayrepublic.org/. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Sep 20, 2007 - 11:03 PM
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| Here's your first bit of feedback...it loads like the wind compared to this. If berto has problems accessing it, he should try a non-IE based browser like Apple's Safari for Windows. Yes, it's spartan (no pop up blocker), and not very nice to look at, but it does load twice as fast as any IE based browser. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Sep 20, 2007 - 11:09 PM
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I do apologize for making myself scarce on that other forum. As it is, I really need to disassociate myself from many other forums and blogs because it's just too time consuming to have to log on and post to all of them in one night. And trying to play catch up after I've missed a few days is a royal pain in the ass.
Besides, GRD is my favorite site. I can go weeks without visiting any other blog...but if I miss out on the wry commentary here I feel lost. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Sep 20, 2007 - 11:14 PM
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One note Vick:
Who came up with the name "La República Gay Paralela" for the Gay Repulbic in Spanish? Technically, it means the "Parallel Gay Republic". That's rather odd. I just noticed it while browsing. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Sep 21, 2007 - 01:44 PM
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| That sounds like the "Gay Parallel Republic", a micronation on alt.politics.micronations. If so, I'm not at all sure who coined the name. They are fond of it though. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Sep 21, 2007 - 11:55 PM
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| Is anyone aware that it's being used as the name for the Gay Homeland Foundation's idea of a gay republic? I'm a bit confused here. I was under the impression that the micronation over at alt.politics was a totally different animal. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 02:23 AM
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Rain wrote:
Is anyone aware that it's being used as the name for the Gay Homeland Foundation's idea of a gay republic? I'm a bit confused here. I was under the impression that the micronation over at alt.politics was a totally different animal.
Can you give me a link to the content in question? There is of course a possibility of some malicious efforts, but most probably some guy has confused the two things.
The idea of a Gay State has emerged long before the Foundation was established. It was met with little enthusiasm, but we should pay tribut to our friend K6 for tossing the idea into Internet back then:
Gay Separatist Manifesto (1998)
The author posts a "Synthesis" on http://groups.google.de/group/alt.politics.micronations/topics , previously he participated in discussions on our other forum, too. The idea of a "Gay Parallel Republic" is basically of co-existence of various peoples on the same territory: "two boats, one river." something similar to Bakunin's proposals, I would say. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 05:32 AM
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Can you give me a link to the content in question?
My mistake. I didn't realize that the forum over at GLR was actually WELCOMING the micronation from alt.politics to the GLR general forum. However it should be stressed somewhere that the two are not one and the same. Just so other native Spanish speakers don't make the same association I did.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Forum software: PNphpBB vs phpBB
Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 05:34 AM
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| I'm still impressed at how smooth and quick the GLR site loads in comparison to this one. |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 12:03 PM
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I happily have a broadband comnnection... Was it always difficult to load this site here, or did the problem occure in the last 2 weeks? As you know, I have added some additonal code (some JavaScript stuff for advertisements), so it may have caused some more problems.
Generally, I need more feedback on this site's performance. To see all the things I wish you to see, the JavaScrip must be enabled.  |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 01:09 PM
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This site is slower to load that GLR, but I wouldn't call it "difficult."
I shall have to rummage through the site using Internet Explorer -- the current version of Firefox claims to not be able to enable javascripts, but then they've been issuing massive updates on a remarkably frequent schedule. Presumably, they will either eventually fix their java issues or will fall into that abyss that Microsoft is so familiar with -- constant updating with no progress in evidence.
"Some" of that stuff that appears at the top of the page now (we won't talk about it in explicit terms... the stuff doesn't like being talked about) is just a cute, yellow rectangle -- something clearly wishes to appear there, but isn't. I suspect I would see dancing Internet pixies in thongs or some such if I were using IE.
The only site performance issue I've noticed in the last two weeks is merging topics... the site seems to think I have an "invalid session" when I attempt to do that.
As far as the Gay Parallel Republic goes... this project has an insistence upon employing multiple languages. I'm under the impression (I could be mistaken) that they require a certain number of uses of various other languages before they are willing to once again employ a language like English. There are merits to the scheme... I just disagree with how compelling they are. (I'm allowed to dissent, you know... I kind of make a habit of it).
The Gay Parallel Republic did, at one time, make use of the GLR forum as a place (one among others) to post it's official pronouncements. The relationship between the Gay Parallel Republic and the Gay Homeland Foundation at that time has been described both as an "embassy" and as an "interesting conversation of similarly-minded individuals." To the best of my knowledge, there is no other connection between the two organizations. The GPR characterizes the Foundation as "a sort of think-tank" rather than an attempt to form government. I would say this characterization is quite accurate.
Being a "think-tank" allows the Foundation to enter into discussions with many different entities without being absorbed into any of them. Further, any number of factions seeking to create a Gay government are quite welcome to discuss their views, philosophies, and objectives with us without any danger of it being assumed that we insist they abandon their plans in favor of our own. Talk is good. There should be more of it. |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 02:04 PM
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Harump.
In Internet explorer there are no dancing Internet pixies. That's a disappointment. I was expecting pixies, not.... those things that shall not be named. |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 10:23 PM
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Well, Vicky...
Microsoft Windows no longer has a native JVM (Java Virtual Machine). They stopped that some years back. The only recourse for those of us who use Windows is to download and install Sun Microsystems' Java. That in itself is a risky enterprise. That particular platform is the target of a host of viruses. Personally, I have found that NOT installing Sun's Java allows for more trouble-free computing. There are still those sites out there that will not load correctly without installing Java. But thankfully, they are now few and far between and usually older than dirt. When I was doing websites, I shied away from using java applets and relied exclusively on flash (SWiSH).
I have a broadband connection, and I still notice a difference in the initial load times between this site and the GLR site. It may be that Vista and IE 7 just prefer the newer technology to this one. Never mind that I do not get that weird error message (only when attempting to log in from the main page now). The GLR site coveniently places the log-in applet ON the main page. No link needed. That's a handy feature.
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"Some" of that stuff that appears at the top of the page now (we won't talk about it in explicit terms... the stuff doesn't like being talked about) is just a cute, yellow rectangle -- something clearly wishes to appear there, but isn't. I suspect I would see dancing Internet pixies in thongs or some such if I were using IE.
Install Sun's Java if you wish to see what's behind the yellow door. I have yet to install Java, for my own paranoid personal reasons (I like the seedier corners of the internet), so I see that lovely, washed-out yellow strip too.
As for the Parallel Gay Republic thing, I don't know. Perhaps that's a personal quirk of mine. Spanish is my mother language in so far as it was the first language I ever spoke. I have to actively translate from English TO Spanish mentally, because I no longer think in Spanish, I think in English. That may be the source of that confusion. Sentences that would make perfect sense in English, somehow sound odd to me in Spanish and I have to stop and sort out the meaning of words. Some words, while quite similar, have totally different meanings in Spanish. One example...embarasada. At first glance, you'd think it's the equivalent of "embarrassed", but it actually means "pregnant" in Spanish.
So...we're a lavender think-tank, huh? I feel shshshpecial! |
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