L: Do you think homosexuals ought to be able to adopt children?

G: No.

L: Do you think they should be allowed to teach in government run schools?

G: Yes.

L: Why?

G: Well, I think if you were going to try to populate schools with non-sinners you are going to have remarkably few teachers.

L: Oh, come on now. You know I'm not talking about sinners [in an original sin sense]. I'm talking about people who are --

G: I'm perfectly happy to disagree. ... I think you come down to a core question of faith. ... But, there's also no requirement that that then leads directly to public policy you just described.

L: Well, my thinking was something like that if people are homosexuals, that tells us something about their character and we care about the character --

G: I don't agree with that.

L: Oh, I see. Why do you think God calls it an abomination if it says nothing about their character?

G: I think there are many good and kind and decent people who may also be homosexuals.

L: Really?

G: Yes.

L. My goodness.

G: And you live in a very narrow world if you've never met one.