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 Posted: Aug 14, 2007 - 06:55 PM
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Or is this some sort of 'New Yorkese' and I'm misinterpreting the dialect entirely?
You're not misinterpreting at all. There is little impetus here to stop Banton and others from changing the lyrics of their music. That sort of stuff is popular EVEN WITH YOUNG LGBT FANS OF DANCEHALL. And it's not entirely new here either. Even back in the 1980s there were Latin Freestyle, Breakbeats, and some early tribal house songs that had defamatory lyrics directed at gays (despite the fact that tribal house was indeed created BY GAYS and many of the Latin Freestyle acts were in the closet). There is a feeling here that freedom of expression trumps sensitivity to the message and that if you don't like what you hear, don't listen to it.
Of course, then you have incidents like the one with the young lesbians in the Village and nobody seems to make the connection. |
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Posted: Aug 23, 2007 - 12:15 PM
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This Saturday a number of organizations and anti-homophobia advocates are staging a protest at Randall's Island in New York City where some of the most homophobic Jamaican dancehall reggae singers will be performing at Reggae Carifest. They include Buju Banton, Beenie Man, Bounty Killer and Elephant Man.
Full details below as well as additional information about another two events being targeted on later dates.
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Posted: Aug 24, 2007 - 12:11 AM
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| I will be there. But it may prove easier said than done. Randall's Island is an island between Manhattan, Bronx, and Queens in the middle of the East River. It's a large sports and recreation complex that's connected to the rest of the city via three bridges and accessible via only one of those...the other two being access ramps for vehicles crossing the Triborough Bridge. I know almost without a doubt that the NYPD will block access to the pedestrian bridge to protesters. |
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Posted: Aug 24, 2007 - 04:30 AM
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| Ahhh, but you don't have to obviously *look* like a protester, do you? I mean, how could they tell who's going to protest vs who's going to party, if one were not carrying a sign, or if the sign were on a piece of inobtrusive, folded-up cloth, or something? |
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Posted: Aug 24, 2007 - 05:41 AM
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| Let's hope the organizers of this thing forego the usual staging and decide to cross the Randall's Island walkway individually. If not, we're in for some hassles just getting there. |
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Posted: Aug 24, 2007 - 06:10 AM
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| Make photos, if you will go there, pleaase. And come back in one piece, too. |
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Posted: Aug 24, 2007 - 02:56 PM
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Clear Channel quits Reggae fest over anti-gay acts
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New York hip-hop radio station Power 105 withdrew its sponsorship of tomorrow's Reggae Carifest because two artists on the bill have used anti-gay language in their songs. The two dancehall reggae artists, Buju Banton and Bounty Killer, have both drawn fire for their lyrics over the years. Banton's song "Boom Bye Bye" advocates burning and shooting gay men; Bounty Killer's song "Another Level" refers to drowning them.
Clear Channel, which owns Power 105 (WWPR/105.1 FM), quietly withdrew its support from the festival on Wednesday after receiving a call from the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. Clear Channel did not issue a statement, but on Thursday a spokeswoman noted that Power 105 does not play Bounty Killer or Buju Banton.
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Posted: Aug 24, 2007 - 08:28 PM
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Clear Channel, which owns Power 105 (WWPR/105.1 FM), quietly withdrew its support from the festival on Wednesday after receiving a call from the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. Clear Channel did not issue a statement, but on Thursday a spokeswoman noted that Power 105 does not play Bounty Killer or Buju Banton.
Note to self: Defend Clear Channel from the usual corporation slagging next time around. It's hardly necessary for them to do this sort of thing 'loudly' -- quietly is just fine. Behaving in a righteous manner as a simple matter of course is a good thing. I might even consider it a virtue. |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2007 - 01:27 PM
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Feral wrote:
Note to self: Defend Clear Channel from the usual corporation slagging next time around.
I assume you meant anti-corporate slagging (  )... Pedantry aside, I find that I have to agree... |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2007 - 03:27 PM
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Groups Denounce Appearances By Anti-Gay Reggae Artists In NYC
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A reggae festival in New York which was created to promote peace among cultures is being denounced by gay and lesbian groups for allowing performers with a history of anti-gay lyrics.
The Reggae Carifest, which will be held Saturday at Randall's Island, in the East River, promises performances by Buju Banton and Bounty Killer, among several other acts at the daylong event. Gay and lesbian activists are planning to protest the performers outside the show to educate sponsors and concertgoers on the dangers of anti-gay lyrics, said Rashid Robinson, a spokesman for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, GLAAD. He said the performers have a right to free speech, but so do protest groups.
"We as an organization value free speech. It gives us the right to stand up to vulgar anti-gay lyrics which promote violence,'' he said.
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Calls to record labels for Banton and Bounty Killer were not immediately returned Friday. Concert promoter Team Legendary did not immediately return messages seeking comment.
The city Parks Department, which operates Randall's Island, said in a statement Friday that all performers signed a code of conduct agreeing to refrain from performing anti-gay lyrics at the promoter's request.
"This is a city that values the free speech of all artists, but we also are a city that does not accept intolerance. We are glad that the artists have agreed to refrain from hateful messages,'' the department said in a statement.
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Posted: Aug 28, 2007 - 01:12 PM
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Well, Power 105 did NOT withdraw its sponosorship. That was somehow floated around but apparently not true. They were not only evident, but MC'ing the affair. Sadly, for the reggae performers, the place was nearly empty. I think all the build up to the protests just got to people (or got them thinking...or got them scared...who knows?). In any event, there were few attendees and fewer protesters still. That being said, the prtotesters who were there were enough to interrupt the proceedings...ha ha ha.
Found a write-up in the Times. Very understated. But, it's the Times.
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Posted: Aug 29, 2007 - 04:36 AM
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Rain wrote:
Well, Power 105 did NOT withdraw its sponosorship. That was somehow floated around but apparently not true. They were not only evident, but MC'ing the affair.
Note to self: Cancel that last note to self. |
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Posted: Aug 30, 2007 - 09:06 AM
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| By coincidence, a concert with a homophobic "Gangsta-Rapper" (whatever) Bushido took place in Berlin, despite protests of Gay activists. The man was previously issued songs glorifying killings of Gay people. The outmost of cinism is that the joint concert was declared to fit into a frame of a local anti-violence campaign. The singer dared to make anti-Gay allusions while on the stage, and the 110.000 youthful listeners cheered approvingly. Remarkably, only 50 protesters from the Gay side were there. With such troops we are doomed, unless something changes. |
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Posted: Aug 30, 2007 - 05:21 PM
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Gaining more troops is usually the knee-jerk reaction to such situations -- If only we can get more fists shaking in the air, the battle will surely turn our way. Another possibility, however, is to deploy what few troops one has using different tactics, even entirely different strategies. I note, for instance, that the landscape in the UK changed considerably when Peter Tatchel sought to have the shops and record companies selling this sort of music prosecuted under existing laws. To be sure, the shaking of fists and the writing of letters continued, but there were other, more tangible, maneuvers being conducted.
Fifty criminal complaints ultimately make more noise than fifty protesters in a crowd two thousand times larger. Depending upon the craftsmanship of the complaint (and civil complaints are not without usefulness either), even the costs of defending against them can be persuasive. |
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Posted: Aug 31, 2007 - 12:13 AM
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| There was little shaking of fists at the reggae concert here on Saturday. It was hardly necessary given the tournout for that event. We managed to easily become a very vocal nuisance that interrupted the concert on more than one occasion. But one strategy that is just as effective as shaking your fist in the air, or maybe more so, is the handing out of flyers and other pieces of literature explaining WHY these performers should be boycotted and their music opposed. I don't think that people, young fans in particular, give too much thought or creedence to the lyrics until they are clearly presented with the arguments AND the results of hateful music. |
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