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Feral - Mar 10, 2007 - 06:15 AM
Post subject: Gay Tourism
Key West recruits gay spring breakers

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MIAMI - First came the Conch Republic. Then Margaritaville. Now, some in Key West hope to claim another title for the island's tourism repertoire: Gay Spring Break Capital of the World.

Faced with an aging corps of gay vacationers, some island business leaders want to reach out to the next generation of that increasingly coveted demographic. This week, Key West's "Gay Spring Break 2007" got into full swing with same-sex-friendly pool parties, barbecues and best-body contests that defy the island's long-standing policy against marketing to the college crowd.

"It's so much nicer to be with people who are the same, and who understand," said Jill McDonald, owner of the Aqua gay and lesbian bar on Duval Street, where police will cordon off streets March 16 for a Gay Spring Break block party featuring DJ Tracy Young. "College is hard enough."

This week marks the height of spring break season, a 14-day stretch when nearly 3 million college students will be on vacation, including those attending Florida State University, the University of Florida and the University of Miami. Though South Florida's tourism bureaus shun the road-tripping college students, some destinations have begun eyeing gay spring-breakers as a lucrative - and manageable - niche.


Not such a bad strategy -- though it seems a little long-term for prudence.

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"The spring breaker is looking for a room with a bathroom and clean sheets. Then they spend their money on fast food and beer," said Harold Wheeler, director of the Monroe County Tourist Development Council. "Somebody can say (gay spring break) is different. I don't know if it is."


What a curious objection. I can't speak for the current generation, but in my day, very little about these assertions about Spring Break were true in my case, or the cases of my friends -- the characterization is far, far too charitable. Now, if the intimation is that gay college kids might not have the profligate spending habits of their elders... you can bet money on that. I would also suggest that noticeable differences will be less drinking, more sex, louder music, and generally a whole lot more noise. They'll want to put away the breakables. Will they return to Key West with fatter wallets once they're out of school? I think that might well be a good bet, as long as you don't sour the experience in some ridiculously stupid way.
vanrozenheim - Mar 10, 2007 - 06:17 PM
Post subject: RE: Key West recruits gay spring breakers
Ah, the more they are recruiting the better! Smile If the guys at Key West actually install some real attraction for those gay spring breakers (whatever it is), and make it known -- well, then they can be sure the money will actually go from some wallets into other. By the way, doesn't it actually taste like the old strategy to use the youngsters as bait for wealthier clientele? Just a thought...
Feral - Mar 10, 2007 - 07:32 PM
Post subject: RE: Key West recruits gay spring breakers
LOL.

This is what I had thought but had not said. No... there is little net profit in a gaggle of partying gay youngsters. I would well understand if an aging gay community would fervently pray that the party would move elsewhere. I do not think that the Spring Break partiers are the real target though. They intend to hold "best body" contests... it is customary to have audiences for this time-hallowed practice. Gather more than 500 twinks in one sunny place and you do not have a money-pot... you have the perfect bait for a money pot. It is not a bad scheme.

They must consider go-go boys and foam parties. Razz
Feral - Jul 16, 2007 - 02:53 AM
Post subject: Gay Tourism
Actually... the focus on Gay tourism is old news. This time it's Lesbian tourism.

Philadelphia Focuses On Gay Tourism

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(AP) PHILADELPHIA When Philadelphia rolled out a national ad campaign aimed at gay tourists four years ago, some of the commercials featured same-sex couples in Colonial costumes.

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Philadelphia has been focusing recent marketing efforts on lesbians, who researchers say are less likely to have visited the city than gay men.

The tourism agency partnered with R Family Vacations, a cruise company that caters to gay and lesbian families.

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A 2005 gay tourism survey says Philadelphia saw a 153-dollar return for every dollar spent on its marketing campaign.


Spend a dollar on a marketing campaign, get $153 back? That hardly seems a 'waste' of the city's money.
Kyleovision - Jul 16, 2007 - 04:09 PM
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The tourism agency partnered with R Family Vacations, a cruise company that caters to gay and lesbian families.


I know that when I think of taking a cruise ship to some exotic locale, a trip to Philadelphia always comes to mind: the sea breezes, the coral beaches, the aggressive crack-sellers along its shaded streets....
Feral - Jul 17, 2007 - 06:32 AM
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Kyleovision wrote:
I know that when I think of taking a cruise ship to some exotic locale, a trip to Philadelphia always comes to mind: the sea breezes, the coral beaches, the aggressive crack-sellers along its shaded streets....


LOL

It IS certainly true that Philly's tourism campaigns paint a much rosier picture of the city than do that city's Gay denizens. Indeed, the consensus seems to be that one should save one's money and go instead to New York -- it's far safer.
Feral - Jul 17, 2007 - 09:29 AM
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Akron to pitch to gay travelers

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The Akron CVB will meet with gay-owned or -operated and gay-friendly businesses July 24 to see what incentives, promotions and programs it may offer to gay and lesbian travelers.

Perhaps of particular interest are gay males, who spend more than heterosexual men and lesbians on trips, according to a survey last year by the Travel Industry Association of America.

To capture some of the $55 billion GLBT market, communities have to demonstrate that they're gay-friendly. GLBT travelers want to go ``where they can hold their partner's hand in public'' and where they're free of intimidation and threats, according to the TIA survey

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The Akron CVB got its toe wet in GLBT travel two years ago at a seminar sponsored by Community Marketing Inc., a San Francisco company that researches the gay market. Last year, it began to advertise in the weekly Gay People's Chronicle in Cleveland.

Now, it's at a fork in the road, said Mahon, the CVB spokesman. ``We can't make up things. If there are incentives or hotel packages out there, that information needs to be fed to us so we can package it,'' he said.


Yah... you "can't make up things." Good luck with the project though -- just don't do anything stupid like spend a lot of money on it.
Feral - Jul 18, 2007 - 09:28 PM
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Gay tourism untapped by P.E.I.

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Prince Edward Island could do more to market itself as a tourism destination to the gay market, says the editor of a gay travel magazine.


Huh. I imagine Prince Edward Island could do more... in theory.
berto - Jul 19, 2007 - 10:57 PM
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Tourism PEI considers gay couples for ads

Let's keep in mind that this *was* one of the very last provinces in Canada to accept equal marriage, and didn't do so until forced into it by federal statute. From all I've heard about PEI (I've never been there) it tends to be staid, conservative, small-town provincial, and is not what I'd call particularly homo-friendly. Which, in reality, makes it no worse than most other parts of the country...
Feral - Jul 20, 2007 - 11:10 AM
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makes it no worse than most other parts of the country...


Which makes it unfit as a destination for tourism. These stories all reek of some concerted effort by some consultant or other... the same figures and the same pitch get recycled in slightly different variations. As with Akron, no doubt Prince Edward Island could do more (than the 'nothing' they are presumably doing now) to market themselves as a Gay destination... they just shouldn't waste too many of their dollars on the effort.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it doesn't make it any more fun to kiss.

Recollect that these same marketing geniuses have survey data that suggests that Gays and Lesbians prefer to travel to "where they can hold their partner's hand in public and where they're free of intimidation and threats." I frankly doubt PEI's ability to reasonably comply with either prerequisite (regardless of the laws that have been forced upon them).
Feral - Jul 23, 2007 - 12:01 AM
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Akron Cancels Gay/Lesbian Tourism Initiative

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An effort to attract more gay and lesbian tourists to Akron has fallen through. Officials canceled a meeting next week with groups and businesses interested in marketing to gay and lesbian travelers.


Though listen to the audio for that report... it seems there was some question about whether marketing the region as 'Gay-friendly' might be seen as a hypocritical attempt to make money off of Gays without actually welcoming them.

Pity... I didn't see it as 'hypocritical.' A pathetically feeble attempt at fraud, yes -- hypocrisy, not so much. As the report points out... when you market something in a particular way, people responding to the marketing rather expect things to be as advertised. They get quite annoyed when they aren't.
Rain - Jul 23, 2007 - 06:44 AM
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Feral wrote:
These stories all reek of some concerted effort by some consultant or other...


You think? lmao!
Rain - Jul 23, 2007 - 06:49 AM
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Akron Cancels Gay/Lesbian Tourism Initiative


But riddle me this Batman...who in their right mind is going to spend their vacation in AKRON? When I lived in Texas, I met tons of transplanted Buckeyes, quite a few of them from Akron and Canton. The impression they gave me was one of a rust-belt town version of Dodge City. If it had been dry enough there would have been tumble weed blowing through Main Street.
Feral - Aug 14, 2007 - 08:47 PM
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Vienna competes for gay tourists

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Famous for its waltz, its cafes and its classical music, Vienna is pushing for a bigger slice of the lucrative gay tourist trade this summer with its "Queer Guide" to the city.

The 48-page brochure, available free of charge in English, French and Spanish, lists all the capital's gay-friendly locations, from night clubs to shops, cafes, hotels, saunas, and nudist beaches on the Danube.

Although Austria was named preferred country of destination by participants in Germany's Gay Pride parade in 2004, Vienna still lags far behind Paris, Berlin or Barcelona in a worldwide ranking of favourite destinations for gays and lesbians.

"Since then, the city has been trying to catch up," Susanne Langer, director of the "Queer Guide" project, which is in its second year, said.


Yup. You can read about it here. Or there's the [url=cms.wien.info/wtv/WEB_en_QG06.pdf]PDF brochure[/url].
vanrozenheim - Aug 27, 2007 - 12:33 AM
Post subject: Mexico City a Gay Paradise?
Exclusive Interview with Matt Skallerud President of IGLTA
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MEXICO CITY, 24/08/2007 (LIOWLB/Enkidu Magazine): Global Gay and Lesbian Tourism is booming and now the city authorities of Mexico City have finally discovered the growing importance of this market segment. Matt Skallerud, President of IGLTA ((International Gay and Lesbian Travel Association), was in Mexico last week, signing an agreement (a "Strategic Alliance") with Alejandra Barrales, Minister of Tourism in the Federal District (Mexico City). IGLTA is the world's leading travel trade association committed gay and lesbian tourism and Lars Ivar Owesen-Lein Borge, general director of Enkidu Magazine have interviewed Matt Skallerud about Mexico City as a gay-friendly destination and the future of the Pink Market in general.

LIOWLB: What are, in your opinion, the advantages of Mexico City as a tourist destination?

MS: Mexico City is one of the few cities in North and South America with a strong European flavor... Of course more on the Spanish side of European culture, but European nonetheless. The only other city I find with such dynamism is Buenos Aires. With that culture comes some of the best restaurants, museums, nightlife and more one would come to expect from a first class city.

LIOWLB:. Do you perceive of Mexico City as a gay-friendly destination?

MS: Yes, I do.

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LIOWLB:. How long have you stayed in Mexico City, and what are your impressions of the city?

MS: I stayed a week, and the last time I was in the city was 14 years ago. Gay life has grown a lot in those 14 years.

[..]

LIOWLB:. What are the characteristics of the gay and lesbian consumer community today? What makes this consumer community "different" from straight consumers?

MS: I've heard this said many times during my stay in Mexico City - "Straight by Day, Gay by Night". It's cute.


Cute? If I right understand what he was attempting to say, you are not advised to show your Gayness by daylight, but can go to bars and discotheks and fuck around under the cloack of night? Pardon my scepticism, but I am still not convinced - it doesn't sound a safe destination for me.

A couple of years ago I was reading a number of sponsored stories on Gay.Ru, glorifying "hidden" sex in Azerbaidzhan, Turmenistan, Fidshi and other similarly "gay-friendly" destinations. Conveniently, the suitable travel agency was just a few clicks away. Need I say how much these folks care about your health once you paid the ticket?
berto - Aug 27, 2007 - 01:03 AM
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Sounds like a great spot. For closet cases.

Instead, go to Montreal -- you get all that European "Old World" charm, but without all the pollution that Mexico City is so notorious for. And another thing Montreal has that Mexico City doesn't -- seasons.
Feral - Aug 27, 2007 - 02:09 AM
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A lack of seasons can be a good thing... for those who have grown sick and tired of seasons (and conveniently have the wherewithal to escape them.)

You will notice the diabolically clever phrasing of the question "Do you perceive of Mexico City as a gay-friendly destination?" Notice that it is not "IS Mexico City a gay-friendly destination?"

You have to love travel agents and their ilk. They make a very happy game of parsing words. "Right after the last ferry leaves is the very best time to dine at one of our local restaurants" actually means "remain indoors during dusk to avoid the astonishing clouds of rabies-infected bats that leave our picturesque limestone cliffs each evening." "Our soft sand beaches are perfect for working on your tan" may well actually mean "avoid any direct contact with the ocean for the next several days until the potentially life threatening swarms of sea hornets have abated."

Yah. I know these people -- some of them are my relatives and they really do know how to squeeze every last drop of honesty out of their responses to reasonable questions. You wouldn't want any honesty contaminating your sales pitch.
berto - Aug 27, 2007 - 03:02 AM
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Okay, so you're sick of seasons. But at least you can breathe the air in Montreal.
Feral - Aug 27, 2007 - 03:52 AM
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Moi? Sick of seasons? Gracious no!

I've refused to consider moving house to some places because of a proper lack of seasons. Arizona met that fate once -- no proper autumn was unacceptable, as was the conspicuous absence of maple and oak trees. I'm not sure I can be at all content outside of the standard oak/beech/maple deciduous forests. Oregon met that fate once too -- my definition of 'summer' does not appear on the calendar out there. Similarly, the rain forests over yonder are nice, as such things go, but they just aren't oak/maple deciduous forests. I can only take so much fir and spruce before I'm really, really tired of looking at them. I rather insist on having all four seasons. While I may scoff at the locals' reactions to winter (really... what goes by that name here is a faint shadow of what goes by that name in Michigan or *shudder* those moosey places in Canada), but I have always been quite put out by an absence of one.

Nope, apart from wanting to visit the Climatron in St Louis and the Parthenon replica in Nashville, I have no desire whatsoever to travel more than about 20 miles from where I am right now. Travel sucks. People who enjoy travel are weird. The Saar valley might be nice to visit again some time -- they have quite potable coffee there (unlike the crayon water that they call coffee hereabouts). Still... they have those damn Vulcan squirrels there. I don't like those squirrels. Too freaky. If squirrels were meant to look like that, fox squirrels would have pointy ears. They don't.
Rain - Aug 28, 2007 - 01:39 PM
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LIOWLB


This would make some rather interesting anagrams...ha ha ha.
Feral - Aug 29, 2007 - 04:29 AM
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Indeed. Wink My question would then be "Just who is this Li, and more importantly, is he hot?"
Feral - Sep 04, 2007 - 08:56 AM
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Buenos Aires debuts discount card for gay tourists

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Buenos Aires this week introduced a special discount card exclusively for use by gay tourists, almost 1 million of whom visit the Argentinian capital annually. The "Friendly Card" is in response to the fact that between 10 to 15 percent of the tourists to Buenos Aires are gay, and can now save between $50 and 200 by using the card at participating restaurants, hotels and other gay-friendly businesses, including emergency medical aid, attorneys' offices and cell phone rental for use during a visit to B.A.

Feral - Sep 17, 2007 - 11:04 AM
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SF Visitors Bureau Campaign Targets Gay Tourists

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(BCN) SAN FRANCISCO A new ad campaign launched by the San Francisco Convention and Visitors Bureau in coordination with Southwest Airlines will attempt to increase the number of gay and lesbian travelers visiting the city, officials announced Wednesday.

The $180,000 tourism campaign will focus on advertising and marketing tactics, including ticket giveaways and informational mailers, officials said.


As another article touching upon the subject said:

"More? San Francisco needs more gay visitors?"

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It may seem redundant to think any entity needs to woo any gay, lesbian or bisexual traveler to the most famous gay-friendly city on the planet. But the competition for the "best gay destination" is rivaled only by the "official" tag everyone seems to covet.

Just imagine San Francisco's chagrin when Las Vegas nudged out the City by the Bay in 2005 as the gay-friendlier destination, according to a survey done that year by Community Marketing. Community Marketing, Inc. used online and field research to survey more than 4,000 gays and lesbians worldwide.


When you consider that New York City is the number one choice of Gay men and this 'nudging out' put San Francisco in the number three slot... Sweetie, that's not even 'B-list' ... I would think that SF's chagrin must be considerable indeed, though they can take solace in the fact that the Travel Industry Association says that San Fransisco is, in fact, the number one gay-friendly destination in the US.

Nah... Considering they're dropping 180 grand on some marketing scheme, I'm thinking they take no solace from the contradictory statistic at all.
Rain - Sep 20, 2007 - 03:16 AM
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When you consider that New York City is the number one choice of Gay men


Why? This town has gone on a rampage trying to erase all visible signs of faggotry. Bars and clubs have closed by the dozens in the past five years. Whole neighborhoods have been emptied of their gay residents. I don't think NYC is a really worthwile destination for gays at all. Maybe if you live in a small, rural town...maybe.

For my money give me Paris, London or Berlin. Hell, I'd even schlep all the way to Sidney if their seasons weren't out of whack and if I could afford it and could stand being in a plane for that long.
Feral - Sep 20, 2007 - 08:35 AM
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Paris, London, Berlin?

I hear Cologne is pretty sweet (in bits). Rumor has it there is some fantabulosa (that's Polari, don't cha know... means something like 'faabulous,' but it's easier to pronounce) Gay sporting event coming up there soon. There are few things more 'destination-worthy' than free-range hunkasaurs, except maybe massive herds of free-range hunkasaurs.
Rain - Sep 20, 2007 - 09:29 AM
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Cologne? Cologne? Oh, yes...it's that city in Germany.

Reeperbahn in Hamburg. Oh my.
vanrozenheim - Sep 21, 2007 - 05:06 AM
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Feral wrote:
I hear Cologne is pretty sweet (in bits). Rumor has it there is some fantabulosa (that's Polari, don't cha know... means something like 'faabulous,' but it's easier to pronounce) Gay sporting event coming up there soon.


Yep, Cologne is a fine destination for tourism. Not only because all those cute laddies, but also because it is not that far from the <i>Lorelei</i> which became famous thanks to Heinrich Heine. From Cologne, one is within an hour in Düsseldorf, likewise in Bonn or Aachen.

Cologne is actually a quite ugly, somewhat dirty and smelly city, but it has a certain charm because of the people here. Believe it or not, the folks here are far more relaxed and gay Wink than somewhere else in Germany. It's cozy in Cologne, and we throw the largest and funniest CSD in Germany. Remarkably, the heterosexuals here are very pragmatic people, and are basically thankfull to Gays for delivering them a second Karneval in the year.

Berlin has much more to offer for intellectuals (museums, opera etc) but it is not a very friendly city. For Gays, the risk of being assaulted by fascists or straight ghetto kids is significantly higher than in Hamburg or Cologne. The entire city is very undustrous and everyone runs like an ant while pursuing his or her daily businesses. It is really comical situation to ask someone for a way just to see the person come to a stop three meters past you, than return and talk with you, while instantly looking to the watch. Your humble servant suffers from nervous unrest and agitation if forced to stay in Berlin longer than 3 days, but it is a vibrant and exciting city, for those who appreciate such things.

The Gay Games are sheduled for 2010, but they are buzy organizing things already now. I happend to befriend a guy who is involved there as volunteer, and it is going to become a really huge event. Conveniently, I do not need to travel around the world - what a happy coincidence of circumstances. If Magomet doesn't go to the mountain, the mountain will certainly come to Magomet, one day. Wink
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